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The text in bold italic that begins each program description is quoted from the original program guide entry. As some tapes lack complete descriptions, and we do not yet have all the program guides in which to find a description, some of the notes below are vague. If you can enlighten us about any program, please email us about that too.

A Few Mild Thoughts On Reality, AKA Radio Sociology - Programs About Ideas - Mar 1964

The following is Lorenzo W Milam's essay from program guide 31, Mar 1964, reprinted in guide 71, Sep 1965, and reprinted again in The Radio Papers, 1986. Here, Lorenzo asks himself what he might do were he to adopt a more stringent set of standards in determining what to put on the air. What if your radio station were to limit itself to a broadcast day of one hour, and that one hour was expected to be the best, the most meaningful and significant of programs? Lorenzo names four programs broadcast in the previous year that met that criteria.

Besides being the examples cited by Lorenzo, there are other threads that run through these programs: Even after 53 years, as we stand figuratively on the edge of so many moral, ethical, and planet threatening cliffs, they are still relevant. Leary tells students to challenge the educational system that is training them to become "good" consumers; Riesman says the American dream of four bedrooms and a two car garage in the suburbs is setting people up for lifestyles of the remote and disconnected, discouraged and disappointed; Louis E Lomax is brutally honest about the American blind spot, how we treat others that lack the privilege of position, skin color, and wealth; And, Greenson, listening with the third ear, then describes another view of Riesman's Suburban Sadness, the emotional distance that some people cannot bridge.

Here is Lorenzo W Milam's essay, originally titled "A Few Mild Thoughts On Reality":

We have always been convinced of the ability of radio to create a picture far exceeding that of television. In the latter, one's vision is only 21 inches across. Everything is laid out for the senses, and there's no chance for the game of unreality to creep in. We like to remember that good radio, with a word or an effect, can create a world in the imagination that is at once unreal and yet intensely personal.

What started us on all this was the series that we are doing on 'The American Future" with David Riesman. (When talks like this come up, we want to set off klaxons and bombs to get people to listen-since our game is that we are alien to all these carryings-on, all we can do is program them at a good time and hope that people listen).

Riesman and his vision seem to us so real, so here. He's talking about the guy across the street who gardens every Sunday, whether he likes it or not, because his neighbors expect him to garden; he's talking about the factory down the way, with its conspicuous production-and the fact that people in this country do not resent conspicuous production half as much in war machines as they do in education. Riesman marshals so many facts from so many sources: from historical writings, current drama, magazines, novels and songs, other sociologists and obscure government fact-books and, we have no doubt, from telephone books and nudie magazines. And one cannot help but be overwhelmed whether one agrees with his conclusion or not-by his discipline with these facts, and above all, with his almost novelistic vision.

It's a favorite occupation of ours to think of the quasi sociologists of the Riesman school as performing for the 20th Century what the novelists did for the 19th. Dickens and his enormous panorama of distorted characters serving to compile criticism of the social institutions of the 19th Century - a criticism of implication and juxtaposition. And-because the 20th Century novelists have moved on from the tactile world into the great, all encumbering shade of Freud, the exterior social criticism must come from the world of fact reporting: the exquisitely detailed 'Reporter At Large' articles in "The New Yorker," the exhaustive documentaries done by some networks and the BBC, and the scholastic reportings of the Riesmans.

Before the Blue Eye of Television came to haunt us all, radio was the grandest source of unreality: The Green Hornet,' 'Allen's Alley,"Superman' made it possible for the great inward eye to produce a wild universe. And now, with fantasy in other hunting grounds, radio seems to be, increasingly, a view on what is. (We won't answer for the unreality of the teen-age love warblings which, if they are taken seriously, seem to set up rather grotesque ideals for future adults to build a world on. ) Radio news, documentaries, Monitor going everywhere and doing everything-radio seems to have left fantasy behind.

And we always have to come back to the important role of the seers like Riesman and Leary and Greenson and Lomax. We often think of the plan of Lew Hill, the founder of the Pacifica stations. His ideal of broadcasting was to come on the air for only an hour - one hour in the evening, seven hours a week. But that hour would be a dilly, a real killer: that no one would soon forget. The plan has all the idealism of hope and all the reality of conciseness: and if we were to adopt that plan, it would be with "Suburban Sadness" or "Beating the Game" or "The Tale of Three Cities" or "Emotional Involvement."

Here are the four programs that inspired Lorenzo's essay: A culture hero, a sociologist, a civil rights era journalist with the unique perspective of growing up black in America, and a psychoanalyst whose patients share alarms like canaries in coal mines.


Beating the Game - Timothy Leary speaking in Ellensburg - Rec Apr 26, 1963; KRAB Jun 17, 1963



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Suburban Sadness - Part 4 of David Riesman's lecture series "The American Future" - Rec Feb 3, 1958; KRAB Feb 17 to Mar 23, 1964

Man AloneThe 50's and 60's were littered with books about alienation: "Modern Man in Search of a Soul"; "The Outsider"; "Man Alone, Alienation in Modern Society"; "The Illusionless Man"; and David Riesman's "The Lonely Crowd" are just a few of the books within easy reach of where I am sitting.

So it is no surprise that the subject would come up on KRAB. Here sociologist David Riesman discusses the alienation caused by the urban-commuter life. In part 4 of his 6 part lecture series, The American Future, he analyzes a time of little houses on the hillside, filled with ticky tacky, all in a row, the Mr Jones who knows something is happening but not what it is. . . . . and all the other symptoms of a society that seemed to have lost its way.

Thanks to the Pacifica Archives, the remaining five lectures will be shared here as well. These are not 15 minute TED talks that end up prescribing the magic technology pill to rectify the mess humans have made of things. Listen and you will learn something.

Listen now - Suburban Sadness - Part 4 of David Riesman's lecture series "The American Future" - Rec Feb 3, 1958; KRAB Feb 17 to Mar 23, 1964 (31:00)

Recording courtesy Pacifica Radio Archives, from whom it is available for purchase on CD: BB0033.04 The American Future: Suburban sadness

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A Tale of Three Cities - Louis E Lomax speaking about race in America - KRAB Jan 30, 1964

Lomax compares and contrasts the cities of Havana, Cuba; Berlin, Germany; and Birmingham, Alabama. We do not know for certain where the speech broadcast on KRAB was recorded, but I suspect it was at Stanford University on Oct 27, 1963. Unfortunately, neither Stanford or the Pacifica Radio Archives could locate a recording. I was able to locate a tape of the speech delivered at Augsburg Nov 21, 1963, but, for some reason, access has been restricted through 2020. Finally, I found a recording made at Lawrence University in May of 1964, it follows the Augsburg speech reasonably close, and Lawrence agreed to digitize it. (Articles in The Stanford Daily Oct 28, 1963, and in The Lawrentian May 22, 1964)

The following is the introduction to the print copy of the Augsburg address (attached):

Mr. Louis Lomax was born in Valdosta, Georgia, in 1922. He attended Payne College in Augusta , where he was editor of the college newspaper. Mr. Lomax did additional graduate study at American University, Washington, D.C., and Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut.

Mr. Lomax began his professional career as Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Georgia State College in Savannah. At the age of 22, he turned to writing , joining the staff of the Afro-American. Later he became a staff feature writer for the Chicago America and he has also had articles published in Life, Post, Harper's, The Nation and The New Leader.

In 1959 he joined Mike Wallace's news staff in New York and became the first of his race to appear on television as a newsman.

Mr. Lomax now devotes his time to being a free lance writer and lecturer. He is the author of two best-sellers. His first, "The Reluctant African", won him the coveted Saturday Review Annisfield-Wold Award for 1960. His second book, "The Negro Revolt", is considered by many to be the definitive work on race relations in America today.

Lomax spoke at Temple de Hirsch in Seattle Apr 23, 1963 on the subject " Negroes and Jews: Two Minorities in Search of Liberalism". He also spoke at the Seattle Urban League annual dinner Apr 2, 1964. I am still trying to learn if he might have delivered A Tale of Three Cities on one of his visits to Seattle.

Louis E Lomax was a dramatic and inspiring orator, with insight and intelligence. He spoke his mind. Any that heard his Tale of Three Cities speech on KRAB in 1964 were fortunate participants in history. What he said then rings true today. He died in an automobile accident in 1970 that some describe as suspicious.Seattle Times Jan 1964

Although we do not have the program guide entry, here is the "Radio Notes" listing in the Seattle Times of Jan 30, 1964:

The first few minutes of the speech are missing from the recording, and it ends somewhat abruptly.

Listen now - A Tale of Three Cities - Louis E Lomax speaking about race in America - KRAB Jan 30, 1964 (45:07)

Recording courtesy Lawrence University: Louis Lomax, "Tale of Three Cities", 5/14/1964 - University Audio Recordings. LU-AV-001. Lawrence University Archives, Seeley G. Mudd Library, Appleton, Wisconsin.

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Emotional Involvement - Dr Ralph Greenson - Rec Oct 16, 1962; KRAB 1963

Ralph GreensonDr Ralph Greenson, Clinical Professor of Psychiatry, UCLA, discusses the genuine kind of involvement (both healthy and neurotic) and the counterfeit kind (disguised emotional uninvolvement). Recorded by Carlos Hagen at the School for Nursery Years.

By the end of the 60's Dr Ralph Greenson was a familiar personality on KRAB. His lectures about "People Who Hate", the "Conflict Between Religion and Psychoanalysis", "Why Men Like War", and "Clinical Varieties of Sexual Apathy" held listeners in rapt attention. And, at some point, we learned he was the psychiatrist to the stars: Marilyn Monroe's psychoanalyst.

This particular program was one of the earliest of Greenson's heard on KRAB. As many program guides from 1963 and 1964 are missing, we do not know the exact date of the first broadcast.

Listen now - Emotional Involvement - Dr Ralph Greenson - Rec Oct 16, 1962; KRAB 1963 - part 1 (31:57)

Listen now - Emotional Involvement - Dr Ralph Greenson - Rec Oct 16, 1962; KRAB 1963 - part 2 (51:19)

Recordings courtesy Pacifica Radio Archives, from whom they are available for purchase on CD: BB0323a-b Emotional Involvement – Ralph Greenson

Marshal McLuhan - From Gutenberg to Batman - KRAB Jul 10, 1968

A lecture given by Marshall McLuhan at Annenberg School of Communications, Philadelphia, in April of 1966. Symbol manipulation, the world of the happening, training of human perception and the potency of pop art. A tape that doesn't seem to have any beginning, middle or end.

Gutenberg to BatmanOpening remarks by Dr George Gerbner, Dean of the Annenberg School. Then, Professor of Communications Robert Lewis Shayon introduces the other participants:

William Jovanovich, president of Harcourt, Brace, and World, Inc;
Dr Dell Hymes, anthropologist;
William Dozier, creator/producer of the TV series, "Batman";
Professor Marshall McLuhan, Director of the Centre for Culture and Technology at the University of Toronto

Starting at just over 13 minutes Marshall McLuhan speaks.

At about 46 minutes the other participants comment upon McLuhan's lecture and take questions from the audience.

Listen now Listen now - Marshal McLuhan - From Gutenberg to Batman - KRAB Jul 10, 1968 (75:52)

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Art is All Over: An Interview of Victor Steinbrueck by Pamela Jennings - KRAB Nov 16, 1973

Pamela Jennings talking with Victor Steinbrueck, architect and artist, designer of the Space Needle and defender of the Public market, about his new book Seattle Cityscape #2.

Preparing this program for posting, I came across a document in the Pike Place Market realm that lists all the tiles purchased during the fund drive of the early 1980's, and, seeing that Victor Steinbrueck had funded a tile, I thought it would be appropriate to put a photo of his tile here. So, after looking up the purported coordinates of said tile, off to the Market we went. Well, as it turns out, after searching up and down, right and left, left and right, two visits to the offices of the Pike Market Foundation, and one to the Market information booth, we finally got someone to admit that sometime in the last 30 years Victor's tile had been destroyed, and they hadn't gotten around to replacing it.

So we went downstairs to Matthew Steinbrueck's shop, "Raven's Nest Treasure", and he showed us a couple of Pike Place Market artifacts, photos of which are exhibited below (click on the small pictures to see a larger version). Also shown is the tile of an old KRAB architect about whom I wish I could learn more, Herb Hannum. Herb did a jazz program ("Just Jazz") from Jan 1968 until about Sep 1972. He was Minister of Propaganda for the Richard AC Greene campaign for Land Commissioner, and architect of the KRAB studios across the street from the donut shop. Unbeknownst to me at the time, he was also a friend of Dylan Thomas (that's Dylan of the White Giant's Thigh, not the Masters of War). What does this have to do with the Market? Nothing really, except that Herb's tile is still there to be seen.

First Dollar
First Dollar

Friends of Market
Friends of the Market

Steinbrueck sign on hill climb
Victor Steinbrueck

Herb's tile
Herb's Tile

For the history of the effort to save the market, see the Friends of the Market site.

listen now Listen now - Art is All Over: An Interview of Victor Steinbrueck by Pamela Jennings - KRAB Nov 16, 1973 (28:43)

Recording courtesy Jack Straw Foundation, JSF PA1224; Photos of First Dollar and Friends of Market poster courtesy Matthew Steinbrueck

Science Forum - John Prothero on "What the scientist can do outside the laboratory" - KRAB Dec 27, 1973

During the first fifteen years of KRAB, Jon Gallant, a Professor of Genetics and Biochemistry at the UW as well as a KRAB founder, produced a number of programs about science that explored issues of ethics and philosophy confronted by scientists in academic and research environments. Some programs recent research discoveries and their implications for the future were discussed. Science Forum seems to have been a regular show in 1973 and 1974, though many guides are missing so it has not been possible to find it in more than a couple of months. This one was recorded Dec 21, 1973 and aired on the 27th.

According to the description on the tape label John Prothero at the U of Washington, on "What the Scientist Can do Outside the Laboratory." Active in the peace movement, Prothero was a KRAB commentator in the old days.

Tape labelJohn Prothero served on the faculty of the Department of Biological Structure at the University of Washington from 1965 to 1999. During this time, he taught histology for fifteen years. He has a long-term interest in many aspects of scaling.

Listen now Listen now - Science Forum - John Prothero on "What the scientist can do outside the laboratory - KRAB Dec 27, 1973 (28:59)

Recording courtesy Jack Straw Foundation, JSF PA0535

William F Buckley and Professor Giovanni Costigan Debate US Foreign Policy - Rec Nov 11, 1971

In 1971 the organizers of "Homecoming" at the University of Washington decided to do something different: Instead of consuming a months ration of beer in 24 hours, and dancing, howling like banshees, around a flaming tower of library tables and chairs, they had a debate on foreign policy. William F ("Firing Line") Buckley was invited to debate University History Professor Giovanni Costigan.

Costigan/Buckley Debate
Don Hannula in Seattle Times Nov 12, 1971

Since 1962, Costigan had been an occasional commentator on KRAB, and, as the war (Vietnam, for those of you keeping count) went on, had become an outspoken critic of it as well as an advocate for civil rights, which meant his name was known beyond the campus and KRAB airwaves. So, something like 8,200 people showed up at Hec Edmundsen on the evening of Nov 11, 1971 to hear Buckley and Costigan debate US foreign policy.

The moderator of the debate was Bill Shadel, who, according to Seattle Times "Man about Town" Robert Heilman, used "a souvenir gavel from the time he served as a radio correspondents' official in the United States Senate in 1951-52." In 1960 Shadel had moderated the third presidential debate between Kennedy and Nixon. After retiring from broadcast news in 1963 he taught at the University of Washington until 1975.

KRAB attended and recorded the proceedings. So did KCTS, KOMO, KOL, and KUOW . . . . and perhaps others as well. As you can read in the attachment below (hiding behind the teletype photo), someone from a commercial station plugged a cassette recorder into the PA, which it is believed added an annoying high pitched tone to KRAB's tape.

Behind the scenes another story unfolded: National Public Radio News contacted KRAB asking for a copy of the debate. While Greg Palmer, KRAB Station Manager, searched for a copy of the audio without the annoying tone, a series of contradictory and unintelligible messages arrived on KRAB's NPR DACS machine. The DACS ("Direct Access Communications System") machine was a kind of stripped down teletype that enabled NPR affiliates (before the advent of the internet) to "communicate" with NPR staff.

DACS machine
DACS with paper
jam and hanging
tape reader

Greg was annoyed enough with NPR, with the station that caused the irritating tone, and with the DACS machine, to publish the string of messages in the Jan 1972 program guide, and you can read them by clicking on the photo at right.

Originally, there were three 7.5 inch tapes of about 30 minutes each. At some point the tapes were circulated among KRAB Nebula stations, and reels 2 and 3 ended up at WYSO in Yellow Springs, Ohio, where they remain. Reel 1 has vanished. WYSO has shared digitized copies of 2 and 3, so we can now hear that annoying tone ourselves. It isn't 'that' bad, really.

I've held off putting this up on the site until I could find audio for the first twenty-seven minutes, since that contains Professor Costigan's opening remarks which set the tone for the rest of the debate. None of the other radio or TV stations had their copies. The best I could find was in the UW Library Special Collections - a cassette home recording made by setting the recorder next to a TV. Not the best audio, but neither is KRAB's. Now that we have the whole 79 minutes, here it is.

Listen now Listen now - William F Buckley and Professor Giovanni Costigan Debate US Foreign Policy - Rec Nov 11, 1971 (79:27)

Recording of part 1, 27 minutes, courtesy University of Washington Libraries, Special Collections, Giovanni and Amne Costigan papers, accession #4338-001, CD106

Recordings of parts 2 and 3, 52 minutes total, courtesy WYSO, in 1971 a KRAB Nebula station

Back to the Garden with Richard 'Dick' Parker and Gregory L Palmer - KRAB 1971

From the Dec 9, 1971 guide listing

Back to the garden

The first of a few programs replaying the improvisational interviews heard every Sunday morning on KRAB's "A Child's Garden of Vegetables". The participants are Dick Parker, Vegetable host, and Greg Palmer, seedling. For the past six months, almost without fail, these two have done an improvised, hopefully comedic interview each week, with such guests as Nasty Canasta, Ivan Vanogranoff (May Day Parade Chairman), the caterer for the Amchitka blast, a bagpipe tuner, the driver of the Mafia sponsored hydroplane, Lloyd Wheels Rainwater, daredevil scooter driver, the official physician of the Lourdes spring, and others. Billy Joe Ray Bob appears throughout as himself.

In this episode interviewed are Nasty Canasta, professional jumper; Ernest Meyerman, stamp designer; and Casper P Boobatts, roller derby husband and spud nut-teer.

Listen now Listen now - Back to the Garden with Richard 'Dick' Parker and Gregory L Palmer - KRAB 1971 (39:47)

Recording courtesy Will Estill, Tape 4

The KRABettes Do Christmas - KRAB Dec 1976 or 1977

Stories, songs and poems, with Abigail, Jesse, Kim, Laura, and Jennifer.

KRABettes Christmas

My recollection of the KRABettes is of them lined up neatly (birds on a wire) on one of the beat up couches in the KRAB lobby, all with their heads down, quietly reading, while their mother, Peggy, was being recorded reading an Irish folktale, or a Grimm story. Here they are with their Christmas production.

Listen now Listen now - The KRABettes Do Christmas - KRAB Dec 1976 or 1977 (25:54)

Recording courtesy Karen Berge

Changes, also known as The Houseboat Summit - Watts, Leary, Snyder, and Ginsberg look into the future and see their past - KRAB Jul 18, 1967

Like all well organized, meaningful social movements, the new Underground, the "Love Revolution," has its leaders . In calling a hippie Summit, you couldn't overlook Alan Watts, Alan Ginsberg, Timothy Leary and poet Gary Snyder. In this discussion, which was printed in The San Francisco Oracle, they talk about modern youth, the psychedelic scene and the possibility of hippy utopias.

Recorded in Sausalito on the houseboat Vellejo in Feb of 1967, this was evidently put together by the San Francisco Oracle newspaper, which transcribed the recording and published the transcript shortly thereafter. The recording was produced for radio (KPFA) by Duncan Ray. It was aired on KRAB at least three times, Jul 18, 1967, Feb 6, 1969, and Dec 8, 1972


Listen now Listen now - Changes - Watts, Leary, Snyder, and Ginsberg look into the future and see their past - KRAB Jul 18, 1967

Recording courtesy Pacifica Radio Archive, from whom a clean copy of this program is available.

Emmett Watson interviewed by Kay Hutchins for Conversations About This, That and the Other Thing - Rec Nov 30, 1982, but rejected for airplay

According to the Feb 1978 program guide "Kay Hutchins, who, despite vague rumors to the contrary, is not a stuffy old Englishwoman..." Between 1978 and 1984 she read from a variety of books and other publications and also recorded conversations with numerous guests at KRAB.

Emmett Watson wrote for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer from 1956 to 1982, and then moved to the Seattle Times, where he continued to write until 2001. He seemed to frequently be inspired, or bemused, by the antics of KRAB, Lorenzo Milam, and others associated with KRAB, including Richard A C Greene and Tiny Freeman. Irritated with the champions of "progress" in the Chamber of Commerce's "Greater Seattle", Watson wrote about his own fictional anti-progress organization "Lesser Seattle". Meanwhile, Jon Gallant of KRAB and Jack Straw was writing of "Grosser Seattle". We don't know which was first.

Anyway, this was recorded but never broadcast. See the tape label at right. We hope to eventually have more of Kay Hutchins' programs.

Listen now Listen now - Emmett Watson talks with Kay Hutchins - Rec Nov 30, 1982 (53:47)

Recording courtesy Jack Straw Foundation, PA0021

KRAB Covers the TDA Demonstration, Federal Courthouse, Seattle - Feb 17, 1970

TDA Photo courtesy Barry Sweet, from his book "Split Seconds", available at all the usual places

TDA, The Day After, was a demonstration planned by the radical Seattle Liberation Front to protest the conviction of the Chicago Eight Conspirators. It was a newsworthy event for Seattle for many reasons. First, it seemed likely to provoke violence, the city's first major "riot" since the Depression. Second, it was the first show of power by the Seattle Liberation Front, the radical group that replaced the Students for a Democratic Society at the University of Washington. The SLF openly, defied the police by announcing where and when the demonstration would take place. Finally, the demonstration would serve to show the breadth of support for the SLF and violent confrontation.

The staff of KRAB decided to report the demonstration as thoroughly as our limited facilities would allow. Four people, with three tape recorders among them, covered the demonstration from three points of view. Michael Wiater and Greg Palmer were in the Seattle Public Library with the Seattle Police. Bill Cleland was with the Seattle Liberation Front, Nancy Keith was on the street in front of the courthouse.

Besides the newsworthy aspects of the demonstration, the staff of KRAB was interested in finding out whether, with volunteers, an event of this kind could be reported objectively and unsensationally.

We decided to play the raw tape made at the demonstration as soon as we could get it to the studio, since we did not have the financial resources for remote live broadcasting. This was done to give an accurate, immediate report of what happened. Following the demonstration, rumors that a gun battle had occurred, that policemen and demonstrators had been killed were quelled by the KRAB coverage. Tapes were on the air within an hour latter the demonstration began. This haste allowed no time to audition the tapes for obscenity. Thus we used a tape loop. When this became impossible, due to a mechanical breakdown, the engineer, Bob
Friede, used masking background music.

After all the tapes had been aired, the four reporters held a panel discussion on the demonstration and its results. The raw tape was later used by Nancy Keith to produce the documentary "TDA: Running the Bulls in Blue." This program was unofficially commended by Seattle Assistant Police Chief Eugene Corr.

The text above is quoted from KRAB Exhibit 18 which was submitted to the FCC Nov 12, 1970 in preparation for a hearing to appeal the FCC's action of renewing KRAB's license for one year instead of the normal three.

This recording is a 10 minute excerpt from the one hour documentary aired May 24, 1970. The first voices heard are Michael Wiater and Greg Palmer. Bill Cleland's voice I do not know, but he was in the street, as also was Nancy Keith.

Listen now Listen now - Sounds of the TDA Demonstration, Federal Courthouse, Seattle - Feb 17, 1970, May 24, 1970 (10:14)

For a related program see "Free the Seattle Eight - KRAB Oct/Nov 1970; KPFA Nov 23, 1970", which is partly documentary, and partly members of the Seattle 7 discussing their indictment for organizing this demonstration and their concerns for the future.

Recording courtesy Will Estill

Soviet Press and Periodicals with William Mandel - KRAB 1964 to 1974

At the beginning of 1958 William Mandel started producing a program on KPFA called "Russian Weeklies". Within a month it was renamed "Soviet Press and Periodicals", and stayed as such until the Pacifica-KPFA Troubles of 1995, when its run ended abruptly. KRAB started airing Soviet P&P in 1964, and it continued until Nov of 1974, when KRAB could no longer afford Pacifica's modest charge.

We have not yet found a copy of one of the Soviet P&Ps aired on KRAB, but we do have something else that was incorporated into several other Pacifica programs about the 1960 House Un-American Activities Committee hearings held in San Francisco that got aired on KRAB. It is Mandel's response to being subpoenaed - his testimony in which he let the Committee know exactly what he thought of them.

In 1999 Mandel's autobiography, "Saying No to Power", was published. It is available through the usual places. A few sample chapters are offered on his web site.

John Whiting has a great two hour conversation with Mandel on his site, MyKPFA.

Listen now Listen now - William Mandel before the House Un-American Activities Committee May 13, 1960 (12:57)

Recording courtesy William Mandel

Flo WareWhat's Goin' Down: Flo Ware talks with Charles Royer - KRAB Aug 1, 1977

Flo Ware was a Seattle activist and advocate for causes of civil and human rights. She first appeared on KRAB doing the occasional commentary, then as a participant and moderator of panel discussions. By 1969 she had a regular program of interviews and discussion that came to be called "What's Goin' Down", and which ran irregularly until mid-1978.

Outside of KRAB she was Vice-President of the Seattle chapter of CORE; in 1968 she ran for Congress against Brock Adams on the Peace and Freedom Party ticket; also in 1968, she led the Washington delegation to the Poor Peoples March on Washington and took Brock for a tour of Resurrection City. Read more in HistoryLink.

In this program she interviews Charles Royer, former news anchor for KING-TV and at this time candidate for mayor of Seattle. The women's conference Flo describes as the week before the taping of this interview was in Ellensburg on the Jul 8, 1977 weekend at which women with progressive agendas were out numbered and out maneuvered by Phyllis Schlafly's flying squads.

Listen now Listen now - What's Goin' Down, with Flo Ware talking with Charles Royer - KRAB Aug 1, 1977 (33:54)

Recording courtesy Jack Straw Foundation, PA1212

A Talk by Barry Commoner - Feb 3, 1977; KRAB Apr 26, 1977

Who is an environmentalist known for his books "The Closing Circle", "The Poverty of Power" and others. This speech, recorded in February, is concerned with relationships between energy and economy. Produced by Phil Andrus.

Short article in Seattle Times covering the Energy 2000 Conference, Feb 4, 1977

Listen now Listen now - A Talk by Barry Commoner - Feb 3, 1977; KRAB Apr 26, 1977 (63:22)

Recording courtesy Jack Straw Foundation, PA0833




America's Town Meeting of the Air (ATMA): Which Way America - Fascism, Socialism, Communism, Democracy? - May 30, 1935, KRAB - Aug 18,1964


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Letter from England - Michael Scarborough reporting from Riddlesden, Keighley, Yorkshire, England


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No Nigguhs TonightAin't No Ambulances for no Nigguhs Tonight - KRAB Dec 21, 1969

Stanley Crouch, drummer and poet, speaks at a Black Student Union Benefit Concert in Los Angeles. This was recorded last Spring and is a Flying Dutchman production.

The original tape label for this program was lost long ago, and at some point replaced with the notation "Lecture by Black male about Blacks in Arts World". A little research led us to Stanley Crouch. One clue was here (4'36") Harlem on My Mind, and another one, at about 23'20" when he introduces his poem Ain't No Ambulances for no Nigguhs Tonight.

Listen now Listen now - Ain't No Ambulances for no Nigguhs Tonight - KRAB Dec 21, 1969 (46:21)

Recording courtesy Jack Straw Foundation, JSF PA1397

Home Movies with David Meltzer - Comedic Relics - 1971 to 1972

David Meltzer sending us all sorts of music and thoughts

This is an Home Movies special devoted to David's Comedic Relics: Gracie and George, Nichols and May, Jean Shepherd, and more.

In the Fall of 1971 Home Movies on Monday nights was followed alternately by Nancy Keith's "Dry Slough Road" or Richard AC Greene's "Bach to the Playpen", but in Nov or Dec Richard left for Hawaii to nap and hob-nob with Spiro Agnew while "campaigning" for Land Commissioner of Washington State. Eventually, Greene's slot was taken over by George Shangrow, the "motly musicologist" with "OK**WHAT NEXT": "musical curiosities until midnight-and-a-half and then baroque and pre-baroque requests."

Listen now Listen now - Home Movies with David Meltzer - Comedic Relics - 1971 to 1972 (54:46)

Recording courtesy Will Estill

A Child's Garden of Vegetables, with Dick Parker - The Sunday Morning Program - KRAB Aug 1970 to Jul 1972

Dick Parker plays mostly quiet classical and jazz stuff.

Dick Parker was a volunteer board operator announcer, who also worked with Greg Palmer on the Sunday Show, and for a couple of years did his version of the Sunday morning program.

This excerpt comes from an over the air recording. The only clue to the date of this show is Dick mentions speaking with Ray Serebrin, but that doesn't narrow it down much. It has flamenco and Spanish classical which seem to have continued to be part of Dick's life for the next 45+ years. And it also has Greg Palmer, with an example of an improvised interview with a rat researcher. (Not to be confused with "A Child's Garden of Freberg")

Listen now Listen now - A Child's Garden of Vegetables, with Dick Parker - The Sunday Morning Program 1970 to 1972 (53:42)

Recording courtesy Will Estill

Dave Harris at Reed - Recorded Jul 20, 1968 - KRAB Aug 2, 1968

Ex-Stanford student body president and draft refuser speaking at Reed College on the 20th of July, 1968. "Any revolution is a revolution for the police and National Guard as well, or it's no revolution at all. If it's a revolution for those people, then the first obligation you have is you don't kill them. This country will never be changed until there's a non-violent revolution. A violent revolution to my mind offers no change in American society." A KBOO tape from Portland.

Recorded by David Calhoun.

This recording was located in the archives of KDNA now held by the The State Historical Society of Missouri. KDNA was a member of the KRAB Nebula and the tape seems to have made it to them. Link for more about: KRAB Nebula.

Could not find anything online about the Reed College appearance, but Harris visited Seattle 2 weeks later and there was a short piece in the Seattle Times Aug 7.

Listen now Listen now - Dave Harris at Reed - KRAB Aug 2, 1968 (59:25)

Recording courtesy of The State Historical Society of Missouri

Saul Alinsky speaking at the University of Washington - KRAB Apr 7, 1970

The radical organizer (of sorts) speaking at the University of Washington some weeks ago, including an impromptu appearance by a disbeliever, (that is, if one can be a disbeliever by believing too much.)

Recorded by KRAB on Feb 10 (Seattle Times) or Feb 17 (KRAB tape label) depending on whom you believe, or disbelieve. Here's the Seattle Times story.

Listen now Listen now - Saul Alinsky speaking at the University of Washington - KRAB Apr 7, 1970 (78:30)

Recording courtesy Jack Straw Foundation PA0979

Flux Art - An interview of George Maciunas - KRAB Nov 18, 1977

Flux Art: An Historical Perspective George Maciunas, father of the Fluxus art movement, presents in this interview with Bill Woods, an Amtrak bartender, an historical perspective of this humorous art clique. A Mouth Production.

According to web sources, this was recorded in Seattle shortly after "the last Fluxus Festival to be organized and directed by Maciunas. Maciunas died eight months later, in May 1978, at the age of 46."

Listen now Listen now - Flux Art - An interview of George Maciunas - KRAB Nov 18, 1977 (55:10)

Recording courtesy Allen

William Kunstler at UW Hec Edmunson Pavilion - Oct 3, 1970 - KRAB Oct 6, 1970

This could be a companion to the Seattle Seven documentary posted a couple of months ago. Chicago Seven attorney William Kunstler came to town some months after the Seattle indictment and before the jury selection had started. Here he talks a little about the two cases, but mostly about the current state of law enforcement and the American justice system. On Oct 4th Kunstler's speech to law students was reported in the Seattle Times.

A copy of the Oct 1 to 14, 1970 program guide has not yet been found, so we don't know how the program was described. Nor has the second reel of tape been located, so this is missing the last ten minutes. Still of interest.

Listen now Listen now - William Kunstler at UW Hec Edmunson Pavilion - part 1- KRAB Oct 6, 1970 (32:07)

Recording courtesy Jack Straw Foundation, PA0610


Hesse, Blake, Jung - Dr June Singer - KRAB Jan 20, 1973

Tape labelJungian analyst June Singer describes the spiritual kingdoms of these three thinkers.

Dr June Singer speaking before the Friends of Jungian Psychology in Dec 1972

Listen now Listen now - Hesse, Blake, Jung - Dr June Singer - KRAB Jan 20, 1973 (60:53)

Recording courtesy Jack Straw Foundation, PA1388


(In the spirit of) International Women's Day - KRAB Mar 8, 1973 to 1983

On and around March 8th, each year, from 1973 to 1983, KRAB commemorated International Women's Day with special programming. Program schedules for all years, except 1974 when no guide was published, can be found here. Unfortunately, so far, little has turned up in the way of recordings of these, or similar, programs. What is offered here is not so much representative of Women's Day programming as it is an example of programming surviving in the archive produced or hosted by women.

International Womens Day

Women and Wildlife - Mar 8, 1974 (22:49) - Harriet Bullitt and Joy Spurr are interviewed by Pamela Jennings and Melissa Garman.

Gouda Cremora (Leila Gorbman) and Caudine La France hosting a Folklife Festival Liar's Contest - May 28, 1979 (69:15)

Margaret Mead speaking about Today's Youth at Bellevue Community College - Apr 6, 1967 (83:16)

Jean Andre talking about happiness - Apr 8, 1968 (15:57)

Joan Rabinowitz with a program of Burmese music - 1982 (61:32)

Susan Stern speaks - Nov 1970 (22:20) - An excerpt from the Seattle Seven documentary posted to the archive last month.

The documentary about the Seattle Seven indictment and forthcoming trial includes a panel discussion taped about a week before the trial was scheduled to start. The panel is made up of members of the Seattle Seven who, earlier that evening had seen the film Woodstock and then stopped off at the The Century on their way to this taping at an "alien place" (KRAB's studio on Roosevelt). A feminist group (was it the Anna Louise Strong Brigade?) had recently issued a condemnation of the males in the SLF, including those of the Seattle 7, for chauvinism.

Through most of the first part of the discussion Susan Stern silently deferred to the males, but at around 2 am her frustration overflowed.

Janet McCloud with a commentary about the living conditions of Native Americans - Nov 16, 1968 (30:24)

Shantha Benegal's Indian music program, a short excerpt - Apr 8, 1984 (13:57)

Kathryn Taylor's Music Room - Apr 15, 1984 (47:42)

Siobhan McKenna with Molly Bloom's soliloquy - (28:45)

If anyone should have any tapes or other documents relating to programming on KRAB that was intended particularly for women, including anything produced by the Anna Louise Strong Brigade of Women's Liberation, The Amazon Media Collective, the Lesbian Feminist Radio Collective, or by any of the many other women whose voices are currently missing from the archive, please let me know.

In the KRAB player you can listen to whatever selection appeals to you, or let the whole thing play.

Listen now Listen now - Voices of Women International Women's Day

Admiral Rickover: A Warning (Eisenhower redux?) - Jan 28, 1982 - KRAB Sep 8, 1982

On Jan 28, 1982, at the age of 82, Admiral Hyman G Rickover testified to the Joint Economic Committee of Congress. Although he is credited as being the driving force behind the Navy's adoption of nuclear powered warships, in this hearing he describes a military supported by special interests, and a likelihood of nuclear war unless disarmament is given priority. Three days after giving testimony he was relieved of command and retired from the armed services.

The questioning comes from Senator William Proxmire and Representative Frederick Richmond.

This program appears to have originated at Pacifica, appearing in the PRA database with a length of 57 minutes. Our copy, preserved and shared by Bob West, is only 42 minutes, so it may be incomplete.

Listen now Listen now - Admiral Rickover: A Warning - Jan 28, 1982 - KRAB Sep 8, 1982 (42:48)

Recording courtesy Bob West and the Pacifica Radio Archives

Drug Addiction and the Law - A Panel Discussion - Spring or Summer 1963

Before "Free Form" there was "Free Forum" radio. The first reference I have found to "free-forum" is in the letterhead Lorenzo used for An Impassioned Plea for Committee Members to Aid an Incipient Radio Station written in mid 1962. In Dec 1963, the first year anniversary program guide essay talks of free-forum listener-supported radio and of how "it consumes us now." "Free-forum" pops up repeatedly throughout the 22 years, finally in Feb1982 in a working paper position statement of programming goals: "In the areas of politics, philosophy, and science two principles apply: first, KRAB must be a true free forum of ideas, championing First Amendment rights. Second, it must seek out individuals and productions which are outstanding, innovative, controversial, and culturally diverse."

This program is one of the earliest examples of a KRAB panel discussion, recorded sometime in the Spring or Summer of 1963. We cannot be more specific with the date because the program guides for most of 1963 have not been located. I am proposing Spring/Summer for the window of its occurrence because during that season it was not unusual during a break midway in a program to open the door to the outside to cool down and air out the studio. You can hear the traffic on Roosevelt, as participants wandered outside. Another clue, however, is that the program was shared with KPFA, which broadcast it on Nov 12, 1963.

The panel is moderated by Dr Nathaniel Wagner, with Dr Frederick Lemere; Dr Alexander Grinstein, King County Jail Physician; Dr Paul O'Holloran; and Attorneys Irving Paul and John Caughlan.

In 1963 Dr Nathaniel Wagner was a professor of psychology and obstetrics/gynecology at the University of Washington. He was an occasional participant in KRAB programs.

John Caughlan was a Seattle attorney and regular commentator and program participant at KRAB. He testified before the FCC in support of KRAB at the short-term license hearing. A biographical sketch notes the following: With a career that spanned more than six decades, John Caughlan became one of Seattle’s most prominent and dedicated civil rights attorneys. Born in 1909 to a radical Methodist family in Missouri, Caughlan graduated from Harvard Law School in 1935 and came to Seattle shortly thereafter. Caughlan first became involved in progressive causes when he represented the Communist Party in 1937 and defended their right to hold a rally in the Seattle Civic Auditorium. In the 1940s, Caughlan provided legal council to many people brought before the Canwell Committee and represented many UW professors and affiliates fired for alleged ties to the Communist Party. In his latter years, Caughlan represented civil rights activists in Mississippi, members of the Black Panther Party, and many others who had faced legal prosecution based on radical beliefs. In 1987, Caughlan received the ACLU’s William O. Douglas award for “outstanding and sustained contributions to the cause of civil liberties and freedom.”

As mentioned above, we acquired this copy of the program from the Pacifica Radio Archives. We were fortunate that the program was sent by KRAB to KPFA, and, miracle of miracles, they saved it.

Listen now Listen now - Drug Addiction and the Law - A Panel Discussion - Spring or Summer 1963 (96:53)

Recording courtesy the Pacifica Radio Archives

Free the Seattle Eight - KRAB Oct/Nov 1970; KPFA Nov 23, 1970

A documentary on the Seattle Eight trial over the organizing of demonstrations which culminated in violence on Feb 17, 1970. Produced at KRAB by Jon Leland and the "New Morning Collective", with engineering by Bill Seymour.

Jon Leland, KRAB news director from 1970 to Spring 1971, explains "I fed news from the Seattle 8 trial to Pacifica stations and I think a few others. This gave me the inspiration to create an alternative news radio network, Unicorn News Service. In Spring 1971 I went to DC for the May Day demonstrations and started feeding FM rock stations like KSAN (SF), WNEW (NYC) and WBCN (Boston) thanks to Danny Schechter, The News Dissector, as well as Pacifica and the KRAB/KPOO stations. At the peak I think we had about 70 stations taking the daily reports/feed. We were aggregating reports from college stations all over the country about demonstrations, along with our own DC coverage and reports from Radio Hanoi to give their side of the story vs the Pentagon's."

The program includes several of the defendants sitting around the table at the doughnut shop talking about why and how they have arrived at this juncture of their lives. The language varies from the dogmatic and slogan-laden, to the almost confessional admissions of Susan Stern. Susan died only six years later.

Twenty-five minutes into the program it is reported that "in September, five members of the Seattle conspiracy among others were purged by two women's groups as counter-revolutionary because of male chauvinism and for elitism". So we can assume that the discussion was recorded sometime between Sep and Nov 22nd when jury selection started.

Listen now Listen now - Free the Seattle Eight - KRAB Oct/Nov 1970, KPFA Nov 23, 1970 (65:10)

In support of those trying to maintain their memories of those times, below are links to some background material on the Seattle 8-less-1 and the conspiracy trial:

Historylink article by Walt Crowley

Looking Back on the Seattle Conspiracy Trial by Roger Lippman

Seattle Liberation Front - Seattle Seven Trial, 1970 - News coverage from the Roger Lippman Collection

For more about the Seattle 7 and the TDA demonstration see "KRAB Covers the TDA Demonstration, Federal Courthouse, Seattle - Feb 17, 1970"

Recording courtesy the Pacifica Radio Archives,

A Memorial for Lenny Bruce at the Judson Memorial Church - KRAB Jan 20, 1967, WBAI Aug, 12, 1966

A CRAZY, LOUD AND DISORGANIZED LENNY BRUCE MEMORIAL SERVICE, at Judson Memorial Church in NY on Aug 12, 1966 . Paul Krassner heads a show of hippies, crackpots and super far-outers who gather to make a big scene for the late comedian. WBAI

We would receive program guides (they called them "folios") from KPFA, KPFK and WBAI, from which we would select programs that appealed to us. This was one of them. The attendees included Allen Ginsberg, Peter Orlovsky, Charlie Haden, Jean Shepherd, and the Fugs. Click here for Dick Schaap's remembrance of Lenny and comments on the memorial.

Listen now Listen now - Lenny Bruce Memorial at the Judson Memorial Church - KRAB Jan 20, 1967 (76:03)

Shared here courtesy of the Pacifica Radio Archives and WBAI. CD copies of this are available from the PRA.

The White Handed-Gibbon - KRAB Mar 7, 1975

Edward GibbonUnorganized is not unstructured. Is it the function of sound to communicate ideas, or emotions? From the Malay Peninsula, a fellow creature "speaks." Produced by C. Reinsch with the assistance of the Woodland Park Zoo.

I hope it was not me that wrote the program guide note above. This was recorded in the old Primate House/Prison that was located on the west side of the zoo (approximately where the "Zoomazium" is now located). Somehow I got permission from Zoo staff, and early one morning a keeper placed the microphone behind the glass in front of the gibbon's quarters. How the gibbon got all those quarters I'll never know. There were three gibbons, two adults and a juvenile. The original tape is long gone, but the file is dated Feb 13, 1974.

Listen now Listen now - The White-Handed Gibbon - KRAB Mar 7, 1975 (13:24)

Recording collection of C Reinsch

Captain Crunch interviewed by Lorenzo Milam - KTAO Sep 13, 1971, KRAB Apr 29, 1972

Attention Please

The Captain Crunch interview is now on Lorenzo Milam's Page, and is linked below

Captain Crunch interviewed by Lorenzo Milam - KTAO Sep 13, 1971, KRAB Apr 29, 1972


Please update your bookmarks

Murder at Kent State - KRAB Aug 10, 1970

In typical KRAB matter-of-fact fashion, the entry in program guide number 199 reads:

5:30 pm MURDER AT KENT STATE UNIVERSITY -- New York Post Columnist Pete Hamill's article as narrated by Rosko, on Flying Dutchman - with jazz by Ron Carter and James Spaulding. Commentary by Nat Hentoff.

This was a commercial recording (Flying Dutchman) released within a few weeks of the Kent State incident and Pete Hamill's columns about it appearing in the New York Post. The album was announced in the June 6, 1970 Billboard.

A few months after the broadcast, during a pre-hearing discovery conference, KRAB was surprised to find this program on a list prepared by the FCC that purportedly provided the justification for renewing KRAB's license for one year instead of the normal three. More to come.

There is something terribly relevant in Hamill's columns, Lois Wyse's poem*, and Hentoff's commentary - Forty-four years after they were written the use of lethal force has become routine.

Listen now Listen now - Murder at Kent State - KRAB Aug 10, 1970 (48:10)

"Four Children Are Still Dead, by Lois Wyse. Excerpt:

"There it was on television, that makes it true doesn't it
I mean if they say it on television it has to be right...but
It can't be right, nobody would shoot on a
In the National Guard are just kids who aren't in Vietnam
They're not different, they're not shoot-em-uppers...
Maybe if I close my eyes I will think I heard wrong, I close
My eyes, four children still are dead, four mothers now must
Learn to teach a child to say please and thank you is no
Longer enough, Children now must learn that bullets kill
And when the National Guard shoots, you have to duck
Four fathers are not fathers this, a world of
Mourning, I weep for the children that died and for the
Children that killed them"

Recording collection of C Reinsch

Making Caskets - KRAB Dec 21, 1983

Not that many decades ago, most caskets were the products of neighborhood cabinetmakers, or of the friends and family of the deceased. In one rural Washington community, this tradition has been restored - when someone dies, their neighbors make the casket. They do this not as a business enterprise, but, as one of the builders says, as "the last thing you can do for your friends." Produced by Phil Andrus.

Phil tells us that the subject interviewees of this program asked that their location identity not be revealed. They weren't interested in turning casket making into a business. So we don't know if, after thirty one years, their casket making tradition has persisted.

Listen now Listen now - Making Caskets - KRAB Dec 21, 1983 (25:54)

Recording courtesy of Phil Andrus

Seattle Symphony Review by Wayne Johnson
Symphony Review with Geoffrey Hewings - KRAB Mar 25, 1969


Geoff Hewings tells it like it was.


Listen now Listen now - Symphony Review with Geoffrey Hewings - KRAB Mar 25, 1969 (11:27)


Recording courtesy Geoffrey Hewings

The George Jackson Brigade Sends a Message - May 1977

In May 1977 KRAB and KZAM both received copies of a communique from the George Jackson Brigade. What the form of the communique was (tape or transcript?), how it was passed to KRAB, and whether KRAB actually ever did anything with it is unclear, as are all other details. That this tape exists at all is something of a surprise. In various communiques, the GJB admitted to bombing and what they called "expropriation". It seems that KRAB proved to be ineffective in disseminating the GJB's message, and they moved on.

Click here to see the FBI's files

Click here to see a book about the GJBtape label

Or click here to see stories in the Seattle Times and Spokane Daily Chronicle on May 13, 1977.

Listen now Listen now - The George Jackson Brigade Sends a Message - May 1977 (10:57)

Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv PA1335

The Outsider, Colin Wilson interviewed by Gene Johnston - KRAB Jan 30, 1968, recorded Dec 1967

tape labelCOLIN WILSON, the literary disappearing act of the decade and author of The Outsider, is interviewed by Gene Johnston, journalist and writer.

According to Gene, Colin Wilson "was to the turtleneck what Twiggy is to the mini-skirt".

Listen now Listen now - Colin Wilson interviewed by Gene Johnston - KRAB Jan 30, 1968 (60:51)

Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv PA0920

Elizabeth Cotten interviewed by Liza Dietrichson - KRAB May 24, 1982

tape labelPerhaps best known for "Freight Train" she was "discovered" by Peggy Seeger. This recording appears to have been made in May of 1982.

Listen now Listen now - Elizabeth Cotten interviewed by Liza Dietrichson - KRAB May 24, 1982 (32:49)

Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv PA1182

Lester Hamilton Greene
Whale Hunting and Halibut Fishing - KRAB Nov 2, 1979

Makah heriditary chief Lester Hamilton Greene (1937-2009) talks with Phil Andrus about Makah traditions, his grandparents and how they earned their livelihood from sea and land.
Produced by Phil Andrus. Click on photo for an article in the Peninsula Daily News. Another story can be found here.

Listen now Listen now - Hamilton Greene - KRAB Nov 2, 1979 (42:21)

Recording courtesy Phil Andrus

Aldous Huxley speaking about the Visionary Experience, KRAB May 1, 1967

Aldous Huxley: The Visionary Experience. In a talk in 1962 at Monterey Peninsula College, the author talks about the "luminous other world of ideas," and the traditional and new ways man has found for coming closer to totally knowing that world. KPFA (R)

As noted above, KRAB broadcast a recording of this speech received from KPFA.  The version shared here comes from an LP entitled “Visionary Experience: A Series Of Talks On The Human Situation” produced by Laura Huxley, and also recorded in 1962. Exactly where it was recorded is not entirely clear. One source says it was at MIT, but the album jacket refers to "The Lecture Hall", which may point to it being from the Los Alamos presentation.

Listen now Listen now - Aldous Huxley speaking about the Visionary Experience (52:27)

Call Me "X", Whitey! - A prescient Gene Johnston talks about post-neoliberal civil rights - KRAB circa 1968

tape labelFrom the May 1970 marathon program guide: May 20, 1970 - THE REPORT FROM DANDELION GROTTO - Upper-middle class kindly old Uncle Eugene Johnston describes a particularly telling confrontation with a member of the oppressed minority.

Listen now Listen now - Call Me "X", Whitey! - Gene Johnston (15:01)

Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv PA0247

Geoffrey Johnson SmithWorld Affairs - Geoffrey Johnson Smith interviewed by Geoffrey Hewings - KRAB Apr 1967

The Vice-Chairman of the British Conservative Party, Geoffrey Johnson Smith (at right) is interviewed at KRAB by Geoff Hewings

Listen now Listen now - World Affairs - Geoffrey Johnson Smith interviewed by Geoffrey Hewings (29:40)

Recording courtesy Geoffrey Hewings

Tom Scribner, Musical Saw Virtuoso, interviewed by Phil Andrus - Dec 22, 1976

Thomas Jefferson ScribnerInterviewed here and there by Phil Andrus, discusses history of musical saw and Scribner’s experiences as a Wobblie logger and sawmill worker in the 1920’s. Shortly after this interview, Scribner moved to Santa Cruz, where the Public Library shares this biographical note:

"On the 1500 block of Pacific Avenue sits a bronze sculpture of an elderly man wearing a Derby hat and playing the musical saw. The man is Tom Jefferson Scribner. During the 1970's and until his death in 1982, Scribner was a common sight on the Pacific Garden Mall where he played his musical saw for passersby. He was something of a counter culture celebrity, for he was a man of many talents: vaudevillian, editor, humorist, philosopher, educator, logger, and a labor organizer with the Industrial Workers of the World (the 'Wobblies')."

Tom Scribner first appeared on KRAB Jul 1, 1969 in a program from KPFA, talking with Lou Hartman.

Listen now Listen now - Tom Scribner, Musical Saw Virtuoso - Dec 22, 1976 (69:34)

Recording courtesy of Phil Andrus

Women and Wildlife - Mar 8, 1974

tape labelThis program was aired live as part of KRAB's 1974 International Women's Day schedule. Harriet Bullitt (then Harriet Brewster Rice) editor and publisher of Pacific Search magazine, and Joy Spurr, wildlife photographer talk with Pamela Jennings and Melissa Garman. They discuss environmental problems, women in vocations, and how-to's of wildlife photography.

Listen now Listen now - Women and Wildlife (23:58)

Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv PA0233

From Port to Port Aboard the Steamboat Virginia V - May 31, 1978

Launched in 1922, the Virginia V is the last working vessel of Puget Sound's historic mosquito fleet. For sixteen years, the V carried passengers between Seattle and Tacoma through Colvos Passage, stopping on her way at over a dozen tiny beach side locations, communities, such as Spring Beach, Maplewood, Fragaria Cove and Cross's Landing, Remembering the Virginia V's past, and discussing her future, will be three people who know her well: Jean Hudson Lunzer, Webster Anderson and Roland Carey.

Listen now Listen now - From Port to Port Aboard the Steamboat Virginia V (52:03)

Recording courtesy Phil Andrus

A Ku Klux Klan enlistment recording with Wally Butterworth - KRAB Nov 18, 1964

A talk with interviews by Wally Butterworth of the Atlanta branch of the Klan; it's rather strong, and tries to show how civil rights workers violate property rights for their own ends; it is followed by the Klan's view of history of the United States since the civil war-and how domination by Jews and Catholics has caused most of our present-day problems.

Listen now Listen now - Wally Butterworth speaks for the KKK (48:48)

Margaret Mead speaking about Today's Youth, recorded at Bellevue Community College Apr 6, 1967

Subjects range from long hair to marriage, and the problems of the "new and different" responsibilities of youth. The speech is about 40 min long - the rest is questions and answers. Although it is written on the tape label that this was broadcast July 31, 1978, it does not appear to have been scheduled for that day as there is no mention in the program guide.

tape labelMargaret Mead was a ground breaking anthropologist who applied the insights of her profession to contemporary lifestyles and mores.

Listen now Listen now - Margaret Mead speaking about Today's Youth - 1967 (85:52)

Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv P0180

Dr Jacob Bronowski interviewed by Jonathan Gallant - KRAB December 2, 1965 (recorded Nov 9, 1965)

DR. JACOB BRONOWSKI - The author of The Meaning of Life, thinker and speaker in the recent series of programs, "The Identity of Man", is interviewed by Dr. Jonathan Gallant. Dr. Bronowski came to Seattle recently as the first Aaraard lecturer at the University of Washington (R)

In this conversation, Bronowski and Gallant discuss the natures of machine and man, the learning process, poetry, the logic of history, and Bronowski's chess-playing machine. Bronowski is several times taken aback by Dr Gallant's questions.

Dr Jonathan Gallant is now an Emeritus Professor of Genome Science, University of Washington. Tape labelOver the years Dr Gallant produced numerous KRAB programs exploring science and the philosophy of science, as well as commentaries, and obscurantist musical diversions. He is one of the founders of KRAB.

Listen now Listen now - Dr Jacob Bronowski interviewed by Dr Jonathan Gallant (60:10)

Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv PA0862

Human Migration, 1972 or 1973

The label drifted away long ago, and all that remains is a scribbled "Human migration". The program seems to be about the use of biological markers in anthropological field work, particularly in the Amazon and amongst the Yanomami. The presenter of the the paper is not identified, but he appears to be speaking to a gathering of anthropologists at the University of Washington in late 1972 or 1973. Meanwhile Chagnon's films are being shown at the HUB.

Listen now Listen now - Human Migration (24:25)

Recording collection of C Reinsch

Strip City Trip - KRAB Jul 16, 1970

A documentary about Seattle's Land of Enchantment, Aurora Avenue North. Gene Johnson interviews strip city merchants, junk dealers, residents and pets about life, times and traffic. Audio by Nils Von Veh, produced by Chris Melgard, and made possible by a grant from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

The earliest program guide appearances for Gene Johnston were in 1965 and 1966 when he read his short stories. Then he did commentaries, and in 1967 started interviewing guests, appearing in panel discussions, producing an irregular review of the Seattle art scene, and eventually documentaries about what once gave Seattle "character". Gene was something of a character himself. He also wrote for the Helix, was Campaign Manager for Richard A C Greene's Assault on the Land, and organized a KRAB softball team.

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Listen now Listen now - Strip City Trip (83:55)


Recording courtesy of the Jack Straw Foundation, JSF inv PA0240, PA0240.2, and PA0241

Marijuana Teach-in, University of Washington, Jan 22, 1969 - KRAB Feb 13, 1969

Found on the "flip side" of one of the "Magic Fingers" recordings. Described in the program guide as follows:

THE MARIJUANA TEACH-IN at the University of Washington January 22, 1969. (1) Introduction by Rick Hull ( 2) "Marijuana and the law" by Allen Evans of the U. W. Law Review (3) "The Police View" by Al Wilding, of Seattle Police Department (4) "The Pharmacology of Marijuana and summary of recent clinical studies" by Dr. Lawrence Halpern of the Department of Pharmacology (5) "The Constitutionality of Marijuana Prohibition" by Len Mandelbaum, Executive Director of the ACLU of Washington.

Unfortunately, all we have are a few, but choice, excerpts, each beginning and ending in mid-sentence.

Dr Lawrence Halpern, UW Department of Pharmacology speaking on "The Pharmacology of Marijuana and summary of recent clinical studies":

Len Mandelbaum, Executive Director of the ACLU of Washington speaking on "The Constitutionality of Marijuana Prohibition":

Listen now Listen now - Marijuana teach-in Excerpts

Recording courtesy Cathy Palmer and Jeffrey R Thompson

Spectrum #186 Carlos Hagen Presents: Reflections on Death - KRAB Feb 27, 1975

Carlos HagenCarlos Hagen was a Chilean emigre that lived in Los Angeles, and produced radio documentaries. He studied at the University of Washington , but left Seattle before KRAB arrived. Many of his programs were aired on KPFK or other Pacifica stations, and appeared on KRAB from 1972 through 1984. Hagen was a fascinating, if slightly bizarre character. He produced a vast array of documentaries on subjects ranging from Latin american music to black lung disease, and Edith Piaf. To call him a hoarder doesn't give him credit for his discriminating collections of thousands of off-the-air recordings of KPFK programs, vinyl LPs, newspapers, and magazines. He died in 2010 (read memorial). David Ossman (?), of Firesign Theatre, describes his efforts to organize Hagen's archives here.

Carlos Hagen presents a remarkable conversation with Stanislav Grof and Joan Halifax. Grof is the Czech medical doctor and researcher who, with his wife Joan, an outstanding Anthropologist specializing in rites of passage, has done extensive work in the application of LSD therapy to terminal cancer patients to help them in their final transition. In this conversation they describe some of the most impressive cases they have worked with, and the feelings and visions of patients at the moment of death.

Listen now Listen now - Carlos Hagen Presents: Reflections on Death (61:21)

This recording has been shared under a Creative Commons license by the Internet Archives, RADIOM, and the Pacifica Archives.


From "A Show of Force", it is A Pub in Connemara - KRAB 1964

What with a new pope and Saint Patrick's day snaking its way toward us, its time for something appropriate.

The WBAI folio (Oct 1964) described it this way: "WBAI's one program series deliberately dedicated to broadcasting against the public interest. Conducted by Richard C. Neuweiler and Bill Alton with help in the thousands, but absolutely no support."

And KRAB guide 126 (Nov 1967) said this: "The first of the satire series that we received from New York (WBAI) which managed to pin everyone wriggling on the wall. With Richard Neustadt, Danuta Wal, Edgar St Vincent Benet, and Geo S Kauffman."

A Show of Force had rousing theme music. Unfortunately I don't have a copy of it.

Catholics, please avert your ears.

Listen now Listen now - A Pub in Connemara (7:13)

Recording collection of C Reinsch

The Role of Alternative Media in Seattle - KRAB Jun, 10, 1975

From the June 1975 Marathon poster:

Who are the alternative media? Whom do they hope to serve? To what goals do they aspire? A live, in-studio panel discussion, to which you listeners are invited to phone in questions and comments at 325-5110. Participants include David Brewster (Editor, the Weekly); Alec Fisken (publisher, the Sun); Ann-Marie Mitroff (from the women's newspaper, Pandora); Walt Crowley (of the defunct underground newspaper, the Helix); Raymond Mungo (founder, Liberation News Service); and Michele Celarier (of the Northwest Passage). Moderated by Robert Weppner.

Listen now Listen now - The Role of Alternative Media in Seattle (112:53)

Recording courtesy Robert Weppner

Tibetan culture - KRAB Feb 2, 1968

Tibetans least that 's what is recorded in program guide number 132 for February 2, 1968. One explanation for this program may be: By the mid-1960's the Tibetan diaspora had come to Seattle and a small community had taken up residence here. Their proximity presented a unique opportunity for those interested in Tibetan culture, and KRAB presented an opportunity for Tibetans agreeable to sharing their experiences and traditions. So, someone organized a panel discussion, which is mostly in Tibetan, with a translator who sounds a little like Alan Arkin. A highlight is when a panelist, describing how Tibetan opera differs from Chinese opera, begins to sing an impromptu example, and is quickly joined in the recital by several other members of the panel.  Lorenzo is heard giving out the phone number so that listeners may call in with questions. Offered here is the surviving excerpt of the program.

Listen now Listen now - an evening by with and about Tibetans (33:29)

Recording courtesy Bob West

Carlos Castaneda at the UW - Recorded Jan 12, 1970; KRAB Feb 6, 1970, Apr 26, 1972

CARLOS CASTANEDA - anthropologist and author of The Teaching of Don Juan (about a Yaqui Indian Shaman) speaking at the U. of W. January 12, 1970.

OK, I have no idea if he made it all up.  I can imagine though, there are lots of anthropologists, fearing for the credibility of the profession, that care a great deal.  But I don’t. Castaneda told a great story in his books, and his lecture presentations were, and are, equally fascinating.  Castaneda describes meeting “Don Juan”, his Yaqui Indian shaman informant, and the challenge of living outside of a “gloss”.

Listen now Listen now - Carlos Castaneda at the UW - KRAB Feb 6, 1970 (65:22)

Recording collection of C Reinsch

An hour of KRAB on a Monday evening - KRAB Jan 1968

This is an example of what KRAB “sounded like”: an anonymous voice announces the next program – long pause – Robert Sund reads from Ring Lardner's “Round-Up” – long pause - the voice announces a commentary by Jean Andre – long pause – Jean Andre expresses her opinion – long pause – voice announces music – and on…..

We did not call it “dead air”.  The spaces between the programs were intended to allow the listener to breathe, to think about what they had just heard, and adjust to what was coming next.  Well, that was the theory.  Sometimes, though, they were a little too long, and the rustling of papers could be downright irritating.

That other sound you hear, are the blowers in the transmitter keeping it cool, oh so cool.

Listen now Listen now - An hour of KRAB on a Monday evening (67:28)

Recording courtesy Bob West

Ampex 601
An Ampex 601 was used for remote recordings

We would drag around the tape deck, mic stand, and microphone, extension cords, and lots of 7-1/2" reels of tape in a leather satchel. I hauled the whole kit down to the Moore Theatre to record George Wallace who was running for President, only to be berated by protesters ("Whatcha' wanta tape him for?") and then interrogated and ejected by the Secret Service. On other occasions I did manage to record Allen Ginsberg at Reed College (on a pleasant Spring day in Mar or May 1967) and Ram Das at UW Hec Edmundson (Oct 12, 1975). It is very strange these two clips survived.

We also had a battery operated deck, a Tandberg, or Uher(?). It had a leather case.

Who else got sent out on these missions, and what did you record?

Listen now Listen now - Allen Ginsberg at Reed - Mar 1967 (4:00)

Listen now Listen now - Baba Ram Das - UW Hec Edmundson - Oct 12, 1975; KRAB Dec 25, 1975 (1:17)

Recordings collection of C Reinsch

The art form of montage:
Jeremy's Classic Tape: I told you I love you, now get your finger out of my ear - KRAB 1965

This morning (December 24, 2012) Democracy Now had an extended interview with John Lewis (member of Congress former chair of SNCC) from last October, and this prompted me to want to share one of the few extant recordings of a program from KRAB, and build this web site. This contains voice or excerpts of creations of Harry Partch, Henry Jacobs, "Professor" Irwin Corey, Louis E Lomax, Wally Butterworth, George Lincoln Rockwell, Timothy Leary, Krishnamurti(?), Alan Watts, Vladimir Ussachevsky, The Yardbirds, Rolling Stones, Joan Baez, and others. Can you identify them?

Thanks to a reader's email, the date associated with this program has been corrected (from 1964) to 1965. It was first (?) aired 8:00 pm Nov 14, 1965.

Listen now Listen now - Jeremy's Classic Tape (34:05)

Recording collection of C Reinsch

If you possess any souvenirs (program guides, tapes, or photos) or have a story about your experience with KRAB you are willing to share, please email

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